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Post by mark on Apr 27, 2024 13:39:01 GMT
Watch the skier here at minute 3 and continue watching until Telehiro skis at the end.
Every Tele skier goes from the park-and-ride phase of their Telemark experience to the constant movement and flow of advanced Tele skiing. Well, I should say that every skier who becomes good at Telemark passes through the PandR phase to the dynamic phase. It's a question of aggression and control. The dynamic skier drives the skis he does not timidly ride them.
Ski your skis or they will just take you along for a ride!
Also notice how the dynamic skier (Telehiro) stays far more in the fall line.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 27, 2024 15:52:05 GMT
Also notice that the "lazy" skier virtually ALWAYS has late pole plants, sometimes so late they are nearly uphill plants. It is a bfd, pole plants are about timing. Actually that skier's skiing does look a lot like how Ttalk Stephen currently skis. It's basically intermediate or low-intermediate skiing and to step up, both he and Stephen have to step it up!
Ha, Telehiro's on T4's and some older "cable" binding- it's about the conditions stupid!
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Post by albertatele on Apr 28, 2024 15:23:58 GMT
Having faith in the skis may seem a bit odd to beginners and low intermediates but it really is a big deal. Pressure the ski, push it, and let it turn. If you can't have faith in your skis, you need different skis. If you hold back, the skis will just wander and wobble even when they are great skis! You have to be the DRIVER!
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Post by lowangle al on Apr 29, 2024 12:25:03 GMT
OK, what is "park and ride"? It's not an industry term as far as I know and I've only seen it used here.
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Post by albertatele on Apr 29, 2024 13:13:20 GMT
Huh? Been a common term in Telemark for a long time. It indicates being really static on the skis, rushing to change leads and then freezing in place as opposed to keeping the legs moving. It's freezing in place when you should be dancing.
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Post by telebabble on Apr 29, 2024 13:44:14 GMT
Typically beginners (like Al) will rush everything from turn to turn in a desperate search to just stand on the skis and ride. They seem to think that balance is about just getting from one lead change to another rather than seeing linked turns as a continuous process, so everything gets rushed or forced and they never really tap into the skis rebound energy or smoothly direct the forces.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 29, 2024 14:40:21 GMT
Oh, Al can ski, but he really does not seem to know what upperbody rotation is or why instructors work so hard to get it stopped in the beginners' lessons.
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Post by lowangle al on Apr 30, 2024 15:58:42 GMT
Upper body rotation is common for long r turns alpine skiing. Hip rotation probably isn't even a thing for alpine because of how close together your feet are and the difference in how you weight your skis in tele.
What you would teach beginners isn't necessarily the only thing that works once you have acquired skills.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 30, 2024 17:33:51 GMT
Bullshit Al, start a different thread and claim what you want in it. You literally don't know wtf you are talking about.
You can keep flapping and flailing all day and call it whatever you want.
SKIING IN COUNTER IS NOT THE UPPERBODY-FLAILING YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT. I don't think you even know what skiing in/with COUNTER means.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 30, 2024 17:44:01 GMT
You would have to be blind to NOT see you throwing your shoulders around in the last couple turns. Does it hurt anything on that bunnyhill? Not much. Is a good habit? Hell no, it's beginner-level skiing.
You will NEVER see Telehiro in a single video throwing his shoulders and upperbody like that.
Whatever it is you think you are doing, it's sure as hell not "B-tele"..
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Post by telebabble on Apr 30, 2024 21:14:11 GMT
Al loves bragging on his amazing bunnyhill skills. If that's what turns him on, more power to him but that's sure no B-tele in that video and the more he talks about technical matters of skiing, the less he should.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on May 2, 2024 14:40:52 GMT
I'm sure Al will post more videos. The first turns in his video just look like common Tele turns but his final few turns show him throwing his shoulders and arms and that certainly has got nothing to do with Telehiro's B-tele and is a common aspect of how beginners tend to initiate turns whether Telemark or alpine.
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Post by mark on May 3, 2024 23:33:40 GMT
Upper body rotation is common for long r turns alpine skiing. Hip rotation probably isn't even a thing for alpine because of how close together your feet are and the difference in how you weight your skis in tele. What you would teach beginners isn't necessarily the only thing that works once you have acquired skills. That is, no doubt, the silliest thing you have posted to date. |
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Post by telebabble on May 4, 2024 13:19:54 GMT
Wow! Disco Al nails it again! Just watch all the alpine greats throw their left and right hooks or their left and right backhanded slaps ripping down the mountains.
Get off the crack, Al.
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Post by telebabble on May 4, 2024 13:27:33 GMT
Go take some lessons Al.You sure as hell need them. But please keep up the Ttalk B-tele garble, it's hilarious!
There is very little shoulder and arm rotation in a great turn. A little arm movement fore/aft is generally not a big deal. When you throw your upperbody body left and right from the hips up, you flail, period.
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