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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 16, 2023 13:52:25 GMT
Watch it; it is a staggered shuffle in the lead change. The front leg comes back to a parallel position with the rear as the legs flex/"pull", ONLY THEN does the to-be-new lead ski come forwad.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 16, 2023 14:05:45 GMT
Of course if you start the movements FROM the parallel position, then you can say that the to-be lead ski goes forward first. You can use as a memonic for practice: forward-back-forward-back, starting with whichever foot you prefer- where "back" puts the skis in a stable parallel position.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 16, 2023 14:23:48 GMT
The reason he can stay so compact is that when he retracts a ski from being in lead, he ONLY BRINGS IT BACK SO IT IS TIP-TO-TIP AND NO FARTHER BACK AND AT THAT POINT THE NEW LEAD MOVES FORWARD.This elimates getting too spread out by jerking the lead back too far and hard, plus it allows the skier to recover balance easily if needed.. It is simply easier to control lead spread with the front ski.
As a matter of practice, it would be best to exaggerate the pause when the skis come tip-to-tip before ONLY THEN moving the new lead forward after a couple seconds being in the parallel position.
As always, lunging and lurching forward or crossountry poling will totally fuck B-tele up.
Here's another good practice memonic: forward (R), bring it back; forward (L), bring it back -where back means "only to parallel"..No ski ever is pulled back any further than to match its tip to that of the tip of the opposite ski.
The "push/pull" expression Telehiro is fond of using is simply a way of talking about flexion in the parallel position and extention into the lead changes.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 14:33:02 GMT
If you watch this student of Telehiro's carefully, you will notice, at times at least, a slight pause when the ski tips atr matched before each turn.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 18, 2023 15:17:22 GMT
The reason he can stay so compact is that when he retracts a ski from being in lead, he ONLY BRINGS IT BACK SO IT IS TIP-TO-TIP AND NO FARTHER BACK AND AT THAT POINT THE NEW LEAD MOVES FORWARD.This elimates getting too spread out by jerking the lead back too far and hard, plus it allows the skier to recover balance easily if needed.. It is simply easier to control lead spread with the front ski. As a matter of practice, it would be best to exaggerate the pause when the skis come tip-to-tip before ONLY THEN moving the new lead forward after a couple seconds being in the parallel position. As always, lunging and lurching forward or crossountry poling will totally fuck B-tele up. Here's another good practice memonic: forward (R), bring it back; forward (L), bring it back -where back means "only to parallel"..No ski ever is pulled back any further than to match its tip to that of the tip of the opposite ski. The "push/pull" expression Telehiro is fond of using is simply a way of talking about flexion in the parallel position and extention into the lead changes. Maybe that’s how he achieves what I call “staying centered throughout the turn.” Its very stable and will let you do the kinds of turns I see him doing. I like that old guys skiing. I don’t see the need for the parallel pause, but it looks cool and he obviously likes it. Al, right at the start of this video, you can see Telehiro himself in the parallel pause -and in some other parts of the video as well. The lead ski is shuffled/retracted but it stops when it comes even with the rear ski, and then the opposite ski moves into lead. A slight shuffle of the rear ski should not hurt anything and will be hard to stop for those of us not used to this staggered shuffling. Retracting the lead to parallel is about monomark to fall-line, and moving the new lead forward is about completing the new turn. |
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 18, 2023 21:07:16 GMT
Al, here's another video that clearly shows that parallel pause in B-tele. The thing is that the faster the movements are, the harder it is to see because it gets shorter and shorter in time duration.
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Post by lowangle al on Dec 18, 2023 21:48:31 GMT
I was going to say the parallel pause may help the pivot, but the old guy is doing the opposite.
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Post by mark on Dec 24, 2023 17:35:09 GMT
Yes, as you release edges from one turn into the fall line and then rotate through the new arc, both skis move, one forward and one back.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Mar 31, 2024 16:11:53 GMT
1) Learn to do this
2) And this- you want some edging and some skidding
3)Learn to down-unweight- retract the knees toward the body rather than pushing the whole body mass up off the skis. Pull the knees toward the chest ( a really strong pole plant or double poling can help get it right maybe).
4)Learn to change leads exactly how Telehiro does in his B-tele. It is the the only really unique thing about B-tele.
Is B-tele the magical cure for cancer? I doubt it. Do you have to master B-tele to ski Telemark well? Hell No.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 22, 2024 16:29:05 GMT
Moved blather from other threads
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Post by telebabble on Apr 23, 2024 13:28:08 GMT
Disco Al is quiet. I hear he discovered D- Telemark. It REQUIRES lots of upperbody thrashing plus a lot of uphill poling!
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 24, 2024 19:42:08 GMT
More than 1 way to get down.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Apr 28, 2024 13:13:56 GMT
Is B-tele magic? Nope, Telehiro skiing bumps on Xplore, not pretty. B-tele, D-tele, you match the gear to the conditions and terrain.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on May 4, 2024 14:24:48 GMT
There's virtually no lateral movement of Telehiro's arms, essentially no upperbody rotation. His upperbody could not be more QUIET. His hands are stably in front with very little fore/aft movement also.
THIS IS B-TELE.
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