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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 16, 2023 2:24:13 GMT
^^ Because Quadzilla is just confused and had to jump in on the gangbang.
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Post by lowangle al on Dec 17, 2023 12:20:12 GMT
Tried to post a photo, didn’t work.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 14:21:38 GMT
Shouldn't be an issue Al. Remove the first http:// in the link or you will have 2, which will ruin the link.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 14:43:49 GMT
Is this poodling? Yes, good skier but at times he falls into being too spread though he's nice and compact for the first 20 seconds. Right here it would be called poodling BECAUSE his rear foot trails his butt by too much. Skiing low makes it harder to not poodle. Freeze it at second 23 to see a perfect poodle.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 14:56:28 GMT
Here is an example of the apex in POODLING. And Rottefella put in their Xplore ad.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 15:00:00 GMT
It gets worse.
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Post by mark on Dec 17, 2023 19:06:01 GMT
How the hell did they miss the obvious @rotteffela before they released that ad?
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Post by mca80 on Dec 17, 2023 21:33:30 GMT
Forgive me, because I am new to telemark, but I like learning and asking what may be dumb questions to others.
Why is it bad to have such great distance between front and back? If you watch The Telemark Movie from 1987 a lot of those skiers have such form. Does it make one less stable/centered? Seems like having the rear ski so far back would make it difficult to actually pressure the ball of foot, no?
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Post by albertatele on Dec 17, 2023 21:37:38 GMT
Yes, the issue is keeping good weight on bothe skis. The other problem with dragging that rear ski is the stress it puts on muscles. The tighter you are, the more the forces are on the bone structure as opposed to the muscles.
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Post by albertatele on Dec 17, 2023 21:41:22 GMT
Mca80. Simply stand with your feet together and start moving one leg back as in a Telemark "stance". At some point the stress on the legs is too much for your knees and your muscles and you will lose the ability to control that rear ski because you will not have your foot under your center of mass. It's easy to feel the issue even without skis on.
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Post by mca80 on Dec 17, 2023 21:50:17 GMT
10-4, I can feel it. So why do so many people look this way, either in older videos or more contemporary poor skiers?
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 21:53:44 GMT
Mc, if you do what At is suggesting, probably at about 8-10 inches of spread between the feet, you will feel the loss of balance and weight on that trailing foot. Being able to stay compact is probably the hardest part of Telemark skiing. In that old movie, people were generally less centered, but to some extent the soft flex of the boots and the tendancy to really get low probably helped offset the typically more elongated form. The ski heroes from that day virtually all moved on to newer gear and changed their style of Telemark as gear Envolved along with technique.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Dec 17, 2023 21:59:41 GMT
Why do some Telemark skiers get THIS spread out and unstable (hence all the poling to laterally stabilize you see at the end here)? I think it's just habit and being ok with the low level of skiing they typically do. You can "get by" with the poodling and XC poling and 100 other things that are ineffective and inefficient if you are willing to really limit your terrain and conditions and how fast you ski.
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Post by mca80 on Dec 17, 2023 22:03:24 GMT
Ah, I just did this and made sure to get low as I could and felt far more balance than I did earlier. Still didn't seem as stable as a more compact stance. Got so many things to practice when we finally get winter here, especially with all that I have learned from the telehiro threads.
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Post by mca80 on Dec 17, 2023 22:07:28 GMT
In that video at the time you linked he certainly doesn't appear stable going down. But I noticed after the downhill bit, just when going straight his torso is shifting side to side with each stride which is not something you want to see in basic xc skiing.
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