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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 12, 2021 15:12:41 GMT
Better to step by lifting the ski and keeping tip down but maybe not always possible with free heels?
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Post by T-rock on Jan 13, 2021 1:00:11 GMT
Thanks for the vids. BTW; those racers poles are all over the place...
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 13, 2021 4:07:17 GMT
You can get away with arms and poles getting knocked about IFFF your core position is strong and balanced i.e. you do not ski by twisting your upperbody all over the mountain. You see it in the alpine ski races. Of course, most of the time you do not see the arms being thrown around and when you do, it's not usually deliberate. Point is you can often recover or stay balanced if the upperbody is "quiet" even if the arms get tossed around some, but once you no longer have a good althletic balance/stance, you're in trouble. Just keeping arms forward and down is not in itself a guarantee of good stable balance but an athletic stance without a bunch of twisting around is. In any case, no one flaps around as a way to improve stability. Also Tele racers use long poles because they skate at the finish.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 13, 2021 21:24:58 GMT
Amusing enough.. Grant, formerly of TEast..True XC/skate Tele-- at a Noridic center. I used to enjoy this also. Skate poles are tall but he keeps them under control..
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Post by telekid on Jan 14, 2021 12:24:49 GMT
Think we have met him at some of the tele fest around. Looks good but just a pole drag going on!
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Post by ? on Jan 14, 2021 18:10:19 GMT
Did he work for Black Diamond or something....He isn't the one who took off his skis and ran up a hill trying to beat Teleking?....If it is THAT is a very funny story.....
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 14, 2021 20:51:46 GMT
Think we have met him at some of the tele fest around. Looks good but just a pole drag going on! Stays nicely in the fall-line (ok, I know it's about 8 degrees or so in pitch Also I really see very little of any kind of pole dragging that would matter at all. People drag that uphill pole when they are basically scared or using way too much inclination. Again, talking about using the inside pole as a habitual braking technique, you know, paddling along dragging the inside pole.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 14, 2021 21:08:20 GMT
This is what leads to really bad pole dragging i.e. continuous uphill poling and paddling. Happy to say Tom seems to be doing a little less of it, but he will never get to even a low-intermediate level until he really thightens up and stops pitching forward over his front ski and stays more in the fall-line. He just rushes into a "stance" with very little flexion of the knees or ankles; the turns do not develop; they are just "stances". BTW, lots of blather about this binding, which seems to be a waste of time being that the only thing Rottefella put out last year on it of any real significance was that they were hoping it to have better downhill ability of the NNN/BC.. Wow, I'll pay 1000 for that being that any choice from Voile 3Pincable up does the trick already. No matter, "yap yap yap" goes the Telemark!
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 16, 2021 13:45:02 GMT
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Post by albertatele on Jan 16, 2021 14:50:34 GMT
^^^ Some nice Paramarking in that video as well as "pure" Tele. Tom M (in the binding video) has the bad habit of just forcing himself into a very very early lead change and then cranking the turns.He quickly goes into his "stance" and then just tries to turn while locked into a stance. He also lurches forward when changing leads.Ideally in Tele (or alpine for that matter) the feet should move continuously in and out as you turn and change leads and that makes for much better balance overall.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Jan 21, 2021 15:51:59 GMT
Oh wow, a video about absolutely nothing. Neither has to be REMOVED to be detached from the boots. And there are some skiers who just leave them attached to the boots when touring for turns. At low angles, the 3PC attached does not bother me at all, in fact there are some advantages. And spinning the hardwires to loosen a bit when climbing or shuffling the flats is like some BFD? But every year someone makes a BFD of this. And if you are just doing laps, you can just detach the cables or hardwires from your heels, and with your climbing wires UP, the Hwires or cables are both harmlessly out of the way. Oh you can't stand that "clacking"? Come on sissy, get over it. And,BTW, the 3PC cable does not just increase lateral stability, it turns a neutral binding into a moderatly active binding. Also the rods and cables have been designed to NOT "easily" come off, otherwise you may have a yardsale in a yardsale. Mangling them only creates or enhances 2 saftey risks: 1) unintentional release and; 2) Breakage.
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Post by LoveRonnyRavenSC! on Feb 1, 2021 13:55:11 GMT
Good God! A video of a forum member at Ttalk skiing over at Whitefish. This is just amazing. Why? Well, he poles with the wrong pole. He is "driving" the lead change with his uphill pole. (It's also evident in his forum avatar, wrong pole.) The first video of himself he posted at Ttalk showed him XC poling until he finally flopped on some low-angle meadow. He also appears to only move his rear ski forward in the lead changes and thus comes close to crossing his skis as he is stuck in some kinda wedge. A great video of how not to pole-- unless you just want to ski the bunnyhills where your pole flailing might not throw you totally out of balance. See this pic? Straight out of XCD the book, don't do it, not as a habit. BTW, night skiing at Whitefish is a real hoot.. And the views are amazing when the fog lifts during the day.. Worst thing about the "BIG Fog" is ..you guessed it; can be really foggy though there's a sheltered side. It (sometimes) suffers from the same SW exposure/aspect as so many hills in N. Idaho, NE Washinton and parts of Alberta and inland B.C.
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Post by albertatele on Feb 1, 2021 19:16:00 GMT
Well, if he likes doing that, have at it. It introduces all kinds of complications to Telemark skiing but can be harmless on the low angles. But what really amazed me about that video is how the ski patrolman seems to not notice at all.
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Post by Telebabble on Feb 1, 2021 22:25:19 GMT
What? You were suprised that ski patrol thought it wonderfully balanced Telemark? HAHAHAHA! Half of them can barely doodle down a blue groomer! But, yea, a young Grampatele! ARC ON -- with the wrong poling ya dumbshit!
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Post by T-rock on Feb 2, 2021 12:10:23 GMT
In the second photo, his upper body is facing down the slope; much more important in my opinion than any BS about where his poles are. In general, I think pole position doesnt matter when going down hill. For instance, the pole plant in a stem cristy is just a crutch for beginners to help them shuft the weight from one screw to another. When I am really cruising down, my body is so low poles cannot be used, and are irrelevant.
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